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Well she's not very developed is she

48hrs old

If she can't communicate yet, you don't need to have a large discussion.

It's normal to get that that early

I know that

4:22 AM

so my question is

4:22 AM

in this early stage

Explain it, at least - and you can have further discussion later.

is it best to just narrate the shit outta her?

Yes

Yes.

ok so another question

4:23 AM

how do you tell the difference between narrating to her and rambling to yourself

4:24 AM

is just addressing her name every couple sentences enough?

4:24 AM

should I pose the statements as questions to her?

it's more the "direction" of it, rather than what you're saying.

like, instead of I like this cereal, I say I like this cereal, how 'bout you?

4:25 AM

Maybe in the morning when I wake up I say Good morning Ikari

If she reacts to it and you didn't intentionally make her do it, it's not puppeting

ok that's fine...

4:25 AM

lemme explain something

4:25 AM

in the past I had an anime waifu...don't judge me ffs

4:25 AM

anyway as part of that I had imaginary convos where I would try and imagine how she'd react

4:26 AM

and then I'd imagine her voice saying it

Using a name is one way.

so would doing that be considered parrotting?

Well If you're imagining her response as well as imagining her voice then I'd assume that's parroting

I mean I have very distinct speech patterns...it's not obvious online unless you've known me a long time, but I have this strange combo of well educated and hip lingo that throws people off....If I parrot her while deliberately avoiding my own speech patterns....will that help give her an idea of what I want her to sound like? (edited)

Hmm.. I'd say that's fine

4:29 AM

Parroting isn't a bad strategy to use early on

4:29 AM

The problem with it comes when you get paranoid and play a game of whodunnit

Another thing is her personality as I've imagined it is somewhat the opposite of mine....I'm fairly hot-headed (although reasonable) and I act on impulse....whereas I would like her to be calm, collected, smart and a realist, but also playful

4:30 AM

so if I initially parrot her as that...and then I assign X date as a cutoff point

I personally do not recommend parroting for the same reason that I don't recommend assuming it's all the tulpa.

like let's after may 30th, I will no longer parrot

don't set dates

4:30 AM

no one knows when things will happen

There shouldn't be an x date

PRETEND FFS

Ok ok

That confusion should not be underestimated, and getting into the habit of parroting is not easy to break.

it doesn't matter what the date is, it's wrong

well the thing is, MY brain cannot have 2 trains of thought at once

4:31 AM

so if I establish through parrotting that, ok, Ikari is calm and collected but smug

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and then say after X date I no longer ever parrot

4:32 AM

if I'm thinking and suddenly calm and smug shows up

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it's ikari

something not calm and smug may show up, and it's still her.

So then I have no idea how you can develop her until she's sentient

4:32 AM

in that respect she's like a freaking baby

4:32 AM

you talk and play and they just kind of watch

err, the stuff we've been talking about this whole time?

4:33 AM

talking to her, doing stuff with her...

Babies go through experiences and develop their own personalities

4:33 AM

I think you're trying to direct her too much

4:33 AM

It's not wrong to expect certain personality traits from a tulpa

so....I am so confused here... should I just do whatever I feel like with her until she expresses interest in something?

But more often than not they'll deviate

ok I get that

4:34 AM

honestly if she get's to the point she's deviating I'll be ecstatic

4:34 AM

RN she doesn't even have anything

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anything she does have, I have visualized onto her

4:35 AM

None of her form, attitude, or anything was chosen by her. I picked it. I'm sorry, I just can't talk to a floating orb of light. When she decides I want to change X, I'll be happy cause it means I know she can think for herself instead of me

That's great

but right now I don't even know that

4:36 AM

she's this entity in my head that rarely speaks or interacts other than when I go to the bunker and ask her to do things (edited)

Mhm so you just talk to her about stuff, do activities with her, show her new things

and then I think it's mostly expectation...I expect her to follow me outside the bunker so she does....really much like a Lucid Dream

Yeah she's not developed enough

I know

4:38 AM

she's been around for 48 hours

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there's lots of somewhat advanced stuff out there

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but nothing on what to do immediately after creating her

just keep doing what you're doing

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and listen

right now she's an empty shell that sits in the basement of the bunker and staters into space until I call for her....and then she moves based on my expectation

4:39 AM

right now, she's a dream character

4:39 AM

more than a tulpa

Do you ever interact with her in a headspace?

a headspace? like a dreamworld?

Yeah

yeah I have twice

4:41 AM

planning on doing it again tonight

4:41 AM

just wanted to get some input on what to do there

Keep doing that and things will come naturally

otherwise I'll just end up in another firefight

No, dreamspace is not what I meant by headspace

there are pretty much two things I'm good at in my dreams....fighting and fucking. Fucking requires an active partner, which is exactly what Ikari is NOT...fighting I can do literally in my sleep...

Ohh

then what is a headspace?

4:43 AM

you mean just talking mentally?

And imagining things

4:43 AM

Daydreaming

I can't recall a time I've ever had a daydream in my life

Headspace as in a visualised place where host and tulpa keep their thoughts? I don’t know if anyone else has one. It’s not compulsory to interact in a headspace.

4:44 AM

I should probably give an example

my other friend with a tulpa (who's name is Kit btw) is supposed to teach me how to daydream

I don't mean advanced daydreaming I mean can you visualise things in your head without having to be asleep

I visualise normal thoughts floating around us in a thick cloud when we’re in the headspace. When I have thoughts towards my “tulpa” that I want him to engage in, but only if he wants to, the thoughts are set free to drift in the headspace where he can pick up on them if he chooses to. If there’s a particular thought I want to get to him, or if I want to have a discussion with him, I’ll send out a thought, usually his name, in his direction, and wait for a response. If he gives a positive one, we can talk mentally.

I mean if I close my eyes, I can easily visualize stuff